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The men on here can say they have a hard time paying for dates and what not, but if that was the way for them to get laid or relationship from a woman of any SMV they would gladly do it. The only reason men are getting away with this behavior is because most women have very low expectations for themselves.

I bolded that part because you’re right but you totally blow it in the next sentence. You’re not wrong per se but you’re missing a key problem.

Most red-pill men have learned doing the bolded part is much more likely to land you in beta-orbit land than in having a girlfriend land.

Period.

End of conversation.

Women who demand dates, especially dates you pay for, in the current SMP are looking to cut their dining bill while improving where they eat. If you’re the rare woman who isn’t I’m sorry but you’re going to get swept up into that bucket.

@Wants to know

You know Herb, yes I would do those things you described because I’ve learned what a great relationship is like by the example my father and slutty mother (modernguys discriptor) set for me. I am after all only 20 and just started to date so I haven’t gotten a chance to do those little acts of kindness.

At your age you’re a rarity. Right now one out of three children live in a home without their bio-dad. The majority of US children will spend some time in a single parent home.

That tends to make men more alpha (ie, sexier) but women…well, it makes women less appealing (especially more likely to slut it up).

Most women who do the career girl first thing can’t really comprehend the things I listed are reasonable expectations.

Liza you are deluded when it comes to how men of high SMV operate and how women of high SMV can expect to be treated by them.